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Reliance Fixed Horizon Fund - XXV - Series 20

Income Direct plan, growth launched 6 Feb 2014 close-ended

At a glance

the fund as it stands today, from public disclosures

NAV, 16 Aug 2018
₹15.21
+0.31% since 31 Jul 2018
1 year
7.1%
return
3 years
8.9%
a year
5 years
not enough history
Since launch
9.4%
a year, over 3.9 years
Assets (AUM)
₹175 Cr
Sep 2018 AMFI quarterly average
Expense ratio, Direct / Regular
0.17% / 0.28%
a year, as of Aug 2018
Holdings
13
top ten are 97% of the fund · Jul 2018
Disclosed history
4.5 yrs
Feb 2014 – Jul 2018 · 3 of 11 checks could run
Fund managers
not parsed from the factsheets yet

What only Anveshan can tell you

measured from the disclosures, not quoted from a brochure — each links to how it was done

P5Cost, measured

Regular plan costs 0.40% a year more than Direct

₹8,775 on ₹1 lakh over ten years. Same portfolio, two prices — the difference is what the Regular plan's distribution costs you, read from the two NAVs.

See how it is measured →
P7Whose record

Not known yet: no factsheet named a manager for this fund.

How long the people running it now have been running it, read from the monthly factsheets. A five-year record earned under someone else is not evidence about these managers.

See what is missing →
NAVTracking gap

Not replicated: the portfolio cannot be priced line by line in this build.

Each day, the NAV the fund published against the NAV its last disclosed portfolio would have produced at that day's prices. A gap that opens and stays is a change the fund has made and not disclosed yet.

See the daily gap →
P4Consistency

Beat its category in 100% of three-year stretches, and averaged +1.4 points a year across all of them

12 rolling windows since 2014 · ahead by 1.4 points a year when it won — and never lost one. A single five-year figure depends on the day you look; the share of stretches won does not — and the average margin says whether winning often was worth anything.

See every window →

headline and record disagree One check found the headline number and the underlying record pointing different ways — marked on the cards below.

NAV and drawdown

Direct plan, growth class · as of 16 Aug 2018

Month-end NAV, indexed to 100 at Sep 2014

100120140Sep 2014Sep 2015Sep 2016Sep 2017Aug 2018Sep 2014: NAV ₹10.74Oct 2014: NAV ₹10.87Nov 2014: NAV ₹10.98Dec 2014: NAV ₹11.07Jan 2015: NAV ₹11.17Feb 2015: NAV ₹11.25Mar 2015: NAV ₹11.35Apr 2015: NAV ₹11.43May 2015: NAV ₹11.51Jun 2015: NAV ₹11.61Jul 2015: NAV ₹11.71Aug 2015: NAV ₹11.80Sep 2015: NAV ₹11.90Oct 2015: NAV ₹11.98Nov 2015: NAV ₹12.06Dec 2015: NAV ₹12.14Jan 2016: NAV ₹12.21Feb 2016: NAV ₹12.30Mar 2016: NAV ₹12.40Apr 2016: NAV ₹12.49May 2016: NAV ₹12.58Jun 2016: NAV ₹12.68Jul 2016: NAV ₹12.82Aug 2016: NAV ₹12.96Sep 2016: NAV ₹13.09Oct 2016: NAV ₹13.19Nov 2016: NAV ₹13.36Dec 2016: NAV ₹13.40Jan 2017: NAV ₹13.54Feb 2017: NAV ₹13.62Mar 2017: NAV ₹13.71Apr 2017: NAV ₹13.81May 2017: NAV ₹13.92Jun 2017: NAV ₹14.02Jul 2017: NAV ₹14.14Aug 2017: NAV ₹14.24Sep 2017: NAV ₹14.31Oct 2017: NAV ₹14.41Nov 2017: NAV ₹14.49Dec 2017: NAV ₹14.55Jan 2018: NAV ₹14.64Feb 2018: NAV ₹14.72Mar 2018: NAV ₹14.83Apr 2018: NAV ₹14.90May 2018: NAV ₹14.99Jun 2018: NAV ₹15.08Jul 2018: NAV ₹15.16Aug 2018: NAV ₹15.21
100120140Sep 2014Sep 2015Sep 2016Sep 2017Aug 2018Sep 2014: NAV ₹10.74Oct 2014: NAV ₹10.87Nov 2014: NAV ₹10.98Dec 2014: NAV ₹11.07Jan 2015: NAV ₹11.17Feb 2015: NAV ₹11.25Mar 2015: NAV ₹11.35Apr 2015: NAV ₹11.43May 2015: NAV ₹11.51Jun 2015: NAV ₹11.61Jul 2015: NAV ₹11.71Aug 2015: NAV ₹11.80Sep 2015: NAV ₹11.90Oct 2015: NAV ₹11.98Nov 2015: NAV ₹12.06Dec 2015: NAV ₹12.14Jan 2016: NAV ₹12.21Feb 2016: NAV ₹12.30Mar 2016: NAV ₹12.40Apr 2016: NAV ₹12.49May 2016: NAV ₹12.58Jun 2016: NAV ₹12.68Jul 2016: NAV ₹12.82Aug 2016: NAV ₹12.96Sep 2016: NAV ₹13.09Oct 2016: NAV ₹13.19Nov 2016: NAV ₹13.36Dec 2016: NAV ₹13.40Jan 2017: NAV ₹13.54Feb 2017: NAV ₹13.62Mar 2017: NAV ₹13.71Apr 2017: NAV ₹13.81May 2017: NAV ₹13.92Jun 2017: NAV ₹14.02Jul 2017: NAV ₹14.14Aug 2017: NAV ₹14.24Sep 2017: NAV ₹14.31Oct 2017: NAV ₹14.41Nov 2017: NAV ₹14.49Dec 2017: NAV ₹14.55Jan 2018: NAV ₹14.64Feb 2018: NAV ₹14.72Mar 2018: NAV ₹14.83Apr 2018: NAV ₹14.90May 2018: NAV ₹14.99Jun 2018: NAV ₹15.08Jul 2018: NAV ₹15.16Aug 2018: NAV ₹15.21
100120140Sep 2014Sep 2015Sep 2016Sep 2017Aug 2018Sep 2014: NAV ₹10.74Oct 2014: NAV ₹10.87Nov 2014: NAV ₹10.98Dec 2014: NAV ₹11.07Jan 2015: NAV ₹11.17Feb 2015: NAV ₹11.25Mar 2015: NAV ₹11.35Apr 2015: NAV ₹11.43May 2015: NAV ₹11.51Jun 2015: NAV ₹11.61Jul 2015: NAV ₹11.71Aug 2015: NAV ₹11.80Sep 2015: NAV ₹11.90Oct 2015: NAV ₹11.98Nov 2015: NAV ₹12.06Dec 2015: NAV ₹12.14Jan 2016: NAV ₹12.21Feb 2016: NAV ₹12.30Mar 2016: NAV ₹12.40Apr 2016: NAV ₹12.49May 2016: NAV ₹12.58Jun 2016: NAV ₹12.68Jul 2016: NAV ₹12.82Aug 2016: NAV ₹12.96Sep 2016: NAV ₹13.09Oct 2016: NAV ₹13.19Nov 2016: NAV ₹13.36Dec 2016: NAV ₹13.40Jan 2017: NAV ₹13.54Feb 2017: NAV ₹13.62Mar 2017: NAV ₹13.71Apr 2017: NAV ₹13.81May 2017: NAV ₹13.92Jun 2017: NAV ₹14.02Jul 2017: NAV ₹14.14Aug 2017: NAV ₹14.24Sep 2017: NAV ₹14.31Oct 2017: NAV ₹14.41Nov 2017: NAV ₹14.49Dec 2017: NAV ₹14.55Jan 2018: NAV ₹14.64Feb 2018: NAV ₹14.72Mar 2018: NAV ₹14.83Apr 2018: NAV ₹14.90May 2018: NAV ₹14.99Jun 2018: NAV ₹15.08Jul 2018: NAV ₹15.16Aug 2018: NAV ₹15.21

48 month-ends · ₹10.74 → ₹15.21, 1.4× since Sep 2014

Deepest fall (max drawdown)
not computed
Worst month
not computed
Days to recover
not computed
from the deepest trough back to the old high

Drawdown is measured on the last year of daily NAV; trailing returns are CAGR of the direct growth class. A single end date decides them — the consistency card (P4) below is the record that does not, and it reports both how often the fund beat its category and by how much, because the first without the second can point the wrong way.

Holdings

Jul 2018 disclosure · 13 lines · when each was first held and the change over the last three disclosures

#HoldingSectorWeightFirst heldHeld for3-mo change
11 Kotak Mahindra Bank Limited **
money market
1.43% Jul 2018 1 mo +1.43%
12 TREPS / cash equivalents
CBLO · money market
1.16% Jul 2018 1 mo +1.16%
13 10.75% Dalmia Cement (Bharat) Limited **
corporate bond
0.29% Jun 2016 2.2 yrs 0.00%
Showing 11–13 of 13 · page 2 of 2 rows per page102550all

Largest sectors, latest disclosure

Not yet computable. Sector labels come from the disclosures; none were mapped for this fund.

By market cap, latest disclosure

Not yet computable. Needs cap tiers for every holding.

The seven checks, in full

each: the plain claim, where it sits in the category, and — folded — how it is measured and the case against. A flag fires only where headline and record disagree.

P4 Consistency, not a single end date headline and record disagree

Beat its category in 100% of three-year stretches, and averaged +1.4 points a year across all of them

12 rolling windows since 2014 · ahead by 1.4 points a year when it won — and never lost one

What this means. Take every three-year stretch since the fund had a NAV, one starting each month, and ask two things of each: did it beat the typical fund in its category, and by how much. Counting the wins tells you the record does not depend on when you happen to look; averaging the margin tells you whether winning often was worth anything, because four small wins do not pay for one large loss.

How often, and by how much. The count and the average agree. It did not lose one of the 12, so the average across all of them is the average win, +1.4 points.

windows measured12windows won12average across every window+1.43 pts a year · median +1.42when ahead, by how much+1.43 pts a year over 12 windowsworst window+1.19 pts a year, ended Aug 2018best window+1.58 pts a year, ended May 2018non-overlapping windows in that span1 — the rolling count overlaps, this does not
Thin record. Only 12 rolling windows — under six years of NAV. The share is shown because it was measured; it is a start, not a record, and does not qualify for the home shelf until 36 windows exist.

Fund minus category, each rolling three-year window

-1.6 pp0.0 pp+1.6 ppSep 2017: fund 10.0% vs category 8.5% (3-year CAGR)Oct 2017: fund 9.8% vs category 8.4% (3-year CAGR)Nov 2017: fund 9.7% vs category 8.3% (3-year CAGR)Dec 2017: fund 9.5% vs category 8.1% (3-year CAGR)Jan 2018: fund 9.4% vs category 8.0% (3-year CAGR)Feb 2018: fund 9.4% vs category 7.9% (3-year CAGR)Mar 2018: fund 9.3% vs category 7.9% (3-year CAGR)Apr 2018: fund 9.3% vs category 7.8% (3-year CAGR)May 2018: fund 9.2% vs category 7.6% (3-year CAGR)Jun 2018: fund 9.1% vs category 7.6% (3-year CAGR)Jul 2018: fund 9.0% vs category 7.6% (3-year CAGR)Aug 2018: fund 8.8% vs category 7.6% (3-year CAGR)Sep 2017Mar 2018Aug 2018
-1.6 pp0.0 pp+1.6 ppSep 2017: fund 10.0% vs category 8.5% (3-year CAGR)Oct 2017: fund 9.8% vs category 8.4% (3-year CAGR)Nov 2017: fund 9.7% vs category 8.3% (3-year CAGR)Dec 2017: fund 9.5% vs category 8.1% (3-year CAGR)Jan 2018: fund 9.4% vs category 8.0% (3-year CAGR)Feb 2018: fund 9.4% vs category 7.9% (3-year CAGR)Mar 2018: fund 9.3% vs category 7.9% (3-year CAGR)Apr 2018: fund 9.3% vs category 7.8% (3-year CAGR)May 2018: fund 9.2% vs category 7.6% (3-year CAGR)Jun 2018: fund 9.1% vs category 7.6% (3-year CAGR)Jul 2018: fund 9.0% vs category 7.6% (3-year CAGR)Aug 2018: fund 8.8% vs category 7.6% (3-year CAGR)Sep 2017Mar 2018Aug 2018
-1.6 pp0.0 pp+1.6 ppSep 2017: fund 10.0% vs category 8.5% (3-year CAGR)Oct 2017: fund 9.8% vs category 8.4% (3-year CAGR)Nov 2017: fund 9.7% vs category 8.3% (3-year CAGR)Dec 2017: fund 9.5% vs category 8.1% (3-year CAGR)Jan 2018: fund 9.4% vs category 8.0% (3-year CAGR)Feb 2018: fund 9.4% vs category 7.9% (3-year CAGR)Mar 2018: fund 9.3% vs category 7.9% (3-year CAGR)Apr 2018: fund 9.3% vs category 7.8% (3-year CAGR)May 2018: fund 9.2% vs category 7.6% (3-year CAGR)Jun 2018: fund 9.1% vs category 7.6% (3-year CAGR)Jul 2018: fund 9.0% vs category 7.6% (3-year CAGR)Aug 2018: fund 8.8% vs category 7.6% (3-year CAGR)Sep 2017Mar 2018Aug 2018
ahead of categorybehind

Each bar is one window's margin in percentage points a year. The height of the bars, not the count of green ones, is what the average across every window measures.

A modest five-year number over a record that beat its category 100% of the time. Rolling every three-year window forward month by month gives hundreds of overlapping observations instead of one. This fund was ahead of its category median in 100% of them, which points the opposite way to the headline figure. A single end date decided that headline.
How it is measured, and the case against

A fund that beats its category in most rolling three-year windows has a record; one that beats it in a few has an end date. How often it won and by how much are different questions, and this card answers both, because a fund can win four windows in five and still be behind across all five.

How often has it beaten its category, across every window?

Why this might matterRolling every three-year window forward month by month gives hundreds of overlapping observations instead of one. A single end date decides a headline five-year figure; the share of windows won cannot be flattered by when you happen to look. The average margin across every window is that share and the payoff multiplied together — win share x average beat plus loss share x average shortfall is exactly the average — so a high share bought with a few ruinous windows cannot hide behind the count.
Why it might notRolling windows overlap heavily, so they are not independent observations and the true sample is far smaller than the count suggests.
P5 Cost, measured

Regular plan costs 0.40% a year more than Direct

₹8,775 on ₹1 lakh over ten years

What this means. The Regular and Direct plans hold the same portfolio; the Regular one pays a distributor out of your money every day. The gap between the two NAVs is that cost, measured from the NAVs rather than quoted from a document.

on ₹1,00,000 over ten years₹8,775Direct vs Regular, annualised9.3% vs 8.9%measured over3.92 years
How it is measured, and the case against

The Direct plan is the same portfolio, priced differently; the divergence of the two NAVs is the cost, measured rather than quoted.

What does the Regular plan actually cost against its Direct twin?

Why this might matterSame manager, same holdings, same day. The gap between the two NAV series is the one number on this page that is knowable today rather than hoped for, and it compounds for as long as the units are held.
Why it might notA Regular plan buys advice. If that advice stops someone selling in a drawdown it can be worth more than the fee — the cost is visible and the behavioural saving is not, which makes this comparison unfair in exactly one direction.
P1 Churn, and what it bought
Not measurable yet. Needs at least two consecutive monthly disclosures.

What this means. How much of the portfolio was bought and sold in a year, computed from what the fund disclosed each month. Trading costs something certain; the extra return it is meant to buy is not.

How it is measured, and the case against

Turnover measured from consecutive disclosures — Σ|Δweight|/2 — costs something certain; the excess return it is meant to buy is not.

Is the trading paying for itself?

Why this might matterAMCs define their own turnover figure inconsistently. This one is computed from what the fund disclosed month to month, so two funds are comparable on it. Read it beside the excess return per unit of turnover.
Why it might notTurnover computed from month-end snapshots misses everything bought and sold inside a month, and a fund forced to sell by redemptions is charged for churn it did not choose.
P2 Conviction or inertia
Not measurable yet. Needs the holdings history for this fund; not computed yet.

What this means. How long a typical top-10 position has been in the top ten. Long-held positions are a decision; a top ten that changes every quarter is a reaction.

How it is measured, and the case against

The median months a top-10 position has been held separates a portfolio somebody chose from one that drifted.

How long does a top-10 position stay a top-10 position?

Why this might matterConcentration is how a manager expresses conviction, and persistence is how long they keep it. Long-held positions with a rising weight are a decision; a top ten that turns over every quarter is a reaction.
Why it might notPersistence without active share is inertia: a portfolio of 166 names that tracks its category closely has diversified away the reason to pay for it. Active share needs index constituent files, which are not loaded yet.
P3 Hit rate of the top ten
Not measurable yet. Detector not yet written: needs each disclosure's top ten joined to six months of forward prices. Holdings and prices are in hand.

What this means. Take each month's ten largest holdings and check whether each one beat the typical stock its category holds over the next six months, and by how much. A blended return can hide two wins and eight losses; a count of wins can hide one position that lost half its value.

How it is measured, and the case against

A manager's largest bets, judged one by one over the following six months, say more than the fund's blended return — and how far each one beat or missed the median stock says more than counting how many did.

Of its top-10 positions, how often did they beat the category-median stock?

Why this might matterA fund can beat its category on two positions and lose on eight; the hit rate shows the pattern the aggregate hides. The average margin then shows what the hit rate hides in turn: six winners worth a point each do not pay for four losers worth ten, and only the margin says which happened.
Why it might notSix months is short, sizing matters more than counting, and a manager who is right on the biggest position and wrong on nine small ones has done their job — the margins here are unweighted, so they answer the counting question better, not the sizing one. Overlapping disclosures judge the same position again each month it is held, so one long-held winner is counted many times. And this is a description of six months already past, not a forecast of the next six.
P6 Size against edge

₹175 Cr

Regular plan expense ratio 0.28% a year

What this means. Where the fund sits by size in its category, and how much of its growth was money arriving rather than the portfolio compounding. A very large fund cannot buy what a small one can; size should buy a lower fee in return.

expense ratio, Regular / Direct0.28% / 0.17% · category median 0.26%AUM, Sep 2015 → Sep 2018₹373 Cr → ₹175 Cr (−22% a year)

Assets under management, ₹ crore, Mar 2014 – Sep 2018

200300400Mar 2014Jun 2015Sep 2016Sep 2017Sep 2018Mar 2014: ₹150 Cr (amfi-aaum)Jun 2014: ₹329 Cr (amfi-aaum)Sep 2014: ₹338 Cr (amfi-aaum)Dec 2014: ₹348 Cr (amfi-aaum)Mar 2015: ₹357 Cr (amfi-aaum)Jun 2015: ₹365 Cr (amfi-aaum)Sep 2015: ₹373 Cr (amfi-aaum)Dec 2015: ₹381 Cr (amfi-aaum)Mar 2016: ₹389 Cr (amfi-aaum)Jun 2016: ₹345 Cr (amfi-aaum)Sep 2016: ₹299 Cr (amfi-aaum)Dec 2016: ₹307 Cr (amfi-aaum)Mar 2017: ₹314 Cr (amfi-aaum)Jun 2017: ₹321 Cr (amfi-aaum)Sep 2017: ₹328 Cr (amfi-aaum)Dec 2017: ₹334 Cr (amfi-aaum)Mar 2018: ₹339 Cr (amfi-aaum)Jun 2018: ₹345 Cr (amfi-aaum)Sep 2018: ₹175 Cr (amfi-aaum)
200300400Mar 2014Jun 2015Sep 2016Sep 2017Sep 2018Mar 2014: ₹150 Cr (amfi-aaum)Jun 2014: ₹329 Cr (amfi-aaum)Sep 2014: ₹338 Cr (amfi-aaum)Dec 2014: ₹348 Cr (amfi-aaum)Mar 2015: ₹357 Cr (amfi-aaum)Jun 2015: ₹365 Cr (amfi-aaum)Sep 2015: ₹373 Cr (amfi-aaum)Dec 2015: ₹381 Cr (amfi-aaum)Mar 2016: ₹389 Cr (amfi-aaum)Jun 2016: ₹345 Cr (amfi-aaum)Sep 2016: ₹299 Cr (amfi-aaum)Dec 2016: ₹307 Cr (amfi-aaum)Mar 2017: ₹314 Cr (amfi-aaum)Jun 2017: ₹321 Cr (amfi-aaum)Sep 2017: ₹328 Cr (amfi-aaum)Dec 2017: ₹334 Cr (amfi-aaum)Mar 2018: ₹339 Cr (amfi-aaum)Jun 2018: ₹345 Cr (amfi-aaum)Sep 2018: ₹175 Cr (amfi-aaum)
200300400Mar 2014Jun 2015Sep 2016Sep 2017Sep 2018Mar 2014: ₹150 Cr (amfi-aaum)Jun 2014: ₹329 Cr (amfi-aaum)Sep 2014: ₹338 Cr (amfi-aaum)Dec 2014: ₹348 Cr (amfi-aaum)Mar 2015: ₹357 Cr (amfi-aaum)Jun 2015: ₹365 Cr (amfi-aaum)Sep 2015: ₹373 Cr (amfi-aaum)Dec 2015: ₹381 Cr (amfi-aaum)Mar 2016: ₹389 Cr (amfi-aaum)Jun 2016: ₹345 Cr (amfi-aaum)Sep 2016: ₹299 Cr (amfi-aaum)Dec 2016: ₹307 Cr (amfi-aaum)Mar 2017: ₹314 Cr (amfi-aaum)Jun 2017: ₹321 Cr (amfi-aaum)Sep 2017: ₹328 Cr (amfi-aaum)Dec 2017: ₹334 Cr (amfi-aaum)Mar 2018: ₹339 Cr (amfi-aaum)Jun 2018: ₹345 Cr (amfi-aaum)Sep 2018: ₹175 Cr (amfi-aaum)

19 points · months without a factsheet figure use AMFI's quarterly average · Regular-plan expense ratio 1.31% in Jun 2018 → 0.28% in Aug 2018

How it is measured, and the case against

Past a certain size the smaller end of a mandate becomes unreachable, and the fund starts to look like its index; what size should buy in return is a lower expense ratio.

Has the fund outgrown the universe it invests in — and did size buy a lower fee?

Why this might matterSize narrows what the manager can meaningfully hold and should lower what the investor pays. Read the AUM history beside the expense ratio: a fund that has tripled through inflows while its Regular-plan TER sits above the category median has kept the benefit of scale for the house. The flow decomposition says how much of the growth was money arriving rather than the portfolio compounding.
Why it might notScale funds research teams, and plenty of large funds have gone on compounding for decades. Inflows follow performance, so a fund growing fast is usually one that did well; the constraint is real but not automatically binding, and a TER is a ceiling the AMC can cut at any time.
P7 Whose record is this
Not measurable yet. Needs manager names from the monthly factsheet archive; none were parsed for this fund yet.

What this means. How long the people running it now have been running it, read from the monthly factsheets. A five-year record earned under someone else is not evidence about these managers.

How it is measured, and the case against

A record earned under different people is not evidence about these ones.

Does the displayed record predate the people running it?

Why this might matterA five-year figure on a fund whose longest-serving manager joined two years ago is the house's record more than the person's. The tenure here comes from what each monthly factsheet named, so a change of hands is dated to the month it was disclosed, and the fund's return against its category can be read over exactly those months.
Why it might notFund houses have processes, research desks and mandates that outlast individuals, so a manager change is not a reset. Co-managed funds attribute the same months to every named manager, and a factsheet names the manager of record, not necessarily the person making the calls.

Tracking gap

the NAV the fund published, against the NAV its last disclosed portfolio would have produced at each day's prices

No signal. About 100% of this fund is outside listed Indian equity — a foreign or derivative sleeve, or debt — and there are no daily prices to replicate it with. A wrong signal would be worse than none.

Share classes

latest NAV per AMFI code

PlanOptionNAVDate
direct
Reliance Fixed Horizon Fund - XXV - Series 20 - Direct Plan - Growth Option
growth₹15.2116 Aug 2018
direct
Reliance Fixed Horizon Fund - XXV - Series 20 - Direct Plan - Dividend Payout Option
idcw₹10.0016 Aug 2018
regular
Reliance Fixed Horizon Fund - XXV - Series 20 - Growth Option
growth₹14.9416 Aug 2018
regular
Reliance Fixed Horizon Fund - XXV - Series 20 - Dividend Payout Option
idcw₹10.0016 Aug 2018
The Direct / Regular gap, in rupees
Direct growth NAV
₹15.21
Regular growth NAV
₹14.94
NAV divergence to date
1.8% — same portfolio, priced differently
Regular costs more by
0.40% a year
On ₹1,00,000 over ten years
₹8,775

A Regular plan buys advice. The fee is visible and the behavioural saving is not; both are shown, neither is netted off.

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